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Graves recommendations

by Jon Peterson » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:38 pm

Would someone be so kind as to recommend a handful of nice white Graves that are a great value?
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Re: Graves recommendations

by Tom Troiano » Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:48 pm

I always liked La Louviere and Fieuzel but haven't had either in a while.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by Mark S » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:09 pm

Jon, I'd second the Fieuzal, but at around $50 now, it is not 'cheap', but compared to other white Bordeaux I guess can be seen somewhat as a bargain.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by David M. Bueker » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:28 pm

Smith Haut Lafitte Blanc is not cheap, but offers fine value for those who like such things.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by Hoke » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:32 pm

Always been fond of the Chateau Malartic-Lagraviere (Pessac-Leognan) but it's around $50+ these days.

A steal is the "G" from Chateau Guiraud, a Sauternes producer that makes some amazingly good dry Sem/Sauv from some of its sunny hillside vineyards.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by Dale Williams » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:55 pm

DDC is very good, but has more than doubled in price. La Louviere and Carbonnieux have gone up, but are comparatively affordable.
Haven't had in last few vintages, but Chantegrive was pretty dependable, and is relatively inexpensive.
Those are in the traditional "serious" style. There are also a lot of wines, especially from the Entre-deux-Mers that are in a simpler SB heavy style, they can be good values, but aren't what I think of when I look for white Bordeaux.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:18 pm

Another vote for "G" from Chateau Guiraud but these Graves wines are not usually in the cellar.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by David Creighton » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:47 am

i don't think the answers so far really answer your question. most of the chateau mentioned, while great, don't come close to reasonable pricing. and the 'G' - while very good in most vintages - isn't really the same style as Graves or Pessac - being mostly semillon rather than SB. i think you should be looking at second and even third wines of these same chateau. or for a little more $ i've always been fond of Olivier and Picque Caillou - the later actually being better than some of the pricier wines.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by Dale Williams » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:29 pm

Current WS Pro ranges
Chantegrive $18-26
Picque Caillou $34-35
Carbonnieux $35-50
La Louviere $40-50
Olivier $40-52
Fieuzel $47-60
As noted, DDC and SHL have really climbed

I'd probably just rather drink a clean Cotes de Bordeaux or Str.Foy than a second or third from a big Graves estate, but that's me.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by Jon Peterson » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:16 pm

A colleague asked and since don't often partake of white Graves I knew I could count on folks here. Thanks, everyone.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by Richard Fadeley OLD » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:48 pm

Villa Belle Air if you can find it, but don't tie one hand behind your back, Entre-Deux-Mers is fertile ground and can be a source of exquisite wine but there are too many to mention. All of the above reco's are from Pessac-Leognan and usually quite pricey. Please let us know what you find that is interesting.
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Re: Graves recommendations

by David Creighton » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:33 am

the thing that distinguishes white graves and pessacs from the others is at least some noticable aging in new oak. so going too far down scale won't work if you are looking for the same character. i've recently had a plain bordeaux blanc from chateau suau that used all three grapes and was really good; but no oak.
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