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Re: Local Breads

by Cynthia Wenslow » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:04 am

Bob, I do the make hot water, remove it and put the dough in the microwave method. This has been especially helpful in NM!
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Re: Local Breads

by Bob Ross » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:11 am

In such a dry climate, that makes lots of sense, Cynthia. If we find a house, I'll remember that tip for sure. :)

Thanks.
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Re: Local Breads

by Larry Greenly » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:19 am

You mean you live outside? Wow. You must have some long extension cords.

There's an old German bakers' saying that a pinch of ginger makes yeast work better.

It turns out that small amounts of ginger, ground caraway, cardamom, cinnamon, mace, nutmeg, and thyme improve yeast activity.
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Re: Local Breads

by Bob Ross » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:40 am

Ah, Larry, you've missed my second house hunting sagas -- we spend hours every weekend reading through the Santa Fe real estate ads. :)

Thanks for the hints on enhancing yeast growth -- an impressive list of kick starters, that's for sure.

What do winemakers do to improve yeast growth?
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Re: Local Breads

by Stuart Yaniger » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:20 am

David M. Bueker wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:Thanks, David. What does the ascorbic acid do?


Yeast food.


Really?

It seems more likely to me that the ascorbate is doing double duty as a natural preservative and a moderator of the gluten strength to prevent an excessively tough chew.
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Re: Local Breads

by Larry Greenly » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:30 am

Stuart is partially right. Ascorbic acid (Vit C) helps gluten development and makes lighter breads.

Regarding the spice additives mentioned above, the amounts used should be just a pinch because at high levels they work against rising. Amts should be under 1/4 tsp per cup of flour.

BTW, I failed to mention another reason that the sourdough bread is coming out dense. Wetter doughs will rise better than drier, flour-filled ones. So be judicious adding flour when kneading. If you knead long enough, a slightly sticky dough will suddenly turn beautifully elastic.

A general rule of thumb for breads, after kneading, to see if they have to much water or not is to shape the dough into a ball and slap your palm on it. Let it there for 10 seconds. If you then pull your hand off and dough sticks to it, it's too wet; conversely, if dough doesn't quite stick, it's just right.
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Re: Local Breads

by Bob Ross » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:46 am

Great hints, Larry -- I've got a great deal to learn. Luckily, the bread tastes awfully good and although too dense made excellent paninis again yesterday.
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