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Corned Beef Brisket

by ChefJCarey » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:17 pm

No hormones, blah, blah blah.

Cooking it tonight. Been brining it for a week.

Btw, has anyone here tried Harris Ranch beef?

Had a couple of ribeyes from there that blew me away.
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Re: Corned Beef Brisket

by Bob Henrick » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:44 pm

ChefJCarey wrote:No hormones, blah, blah blah.
Cooking it tonight. Been brining it for a week.
Btw, has anyone here tried Harris Ranch beef?
Had a couple of ribeyes from there that blew me away.


I've not had the Harris Ranch beef Chef.There have been several threads over the years about grass fed beef, including Nieman Ranch. I grew up on a farm and there was a reason for feeding an animal out on corn, IIRC, it was to put a little fat in the carcass for flavor. Grass fed beef is very lean and therefore dry. Or so it seems to me. Plus that grass fed stuff is higher price. Or, are you talking about something else?
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Re: Corned Beef Brisket

by ChefJCarey » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:27 pm

Bob Henrick wrote:
ChefJCarey wrote:No hormones, blah, blah blah.
Cooking it tonight. Been brining it for a week.
Btw, has anyone here tried Harris Ranch beef?
Had a couple of ribeyes from there that blew me away.


I've not had the Harris Ranch beef Chef.There have been several threads over the years about grass fed beef, including Nieman Ranch. I grew up on a farm and there was a reason for feeding an animal out on corn, IIRC, it was to put a little fat in the carcass for flavor. Grass fed beef is very lean and therefore dry. Or so it seems to me. Plus that grass fed stuff is higher price. Or, are you talking about something else?


No, that's why this stuff was so amazing to me. It was excellent. I am a convert.
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Re: Corned Beef Brisket

by Jenise » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:45 pm

ChefJCarey wrote:No hormones, blah, blah blah.

Cooking it tonight. Been brining it for a week.

Btw, has anyone here tried Harris Ranch beef?

Had a couple of ribeyes from there that blew me away.


Harris Ranch beef can be incredible. When I worked on a project up in Bakersfield, we'd occasionally send someone up I-5 to bring back a truckload and we'd grill 'em right after work in the parking lot.

Surprised to hear about you getting it in Oregon, though--up here, all the good prime beef comes from Oregon.

So, what does Chef serve with his corned beef?
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Re: Corned Beef Brisket

by ChefJCarey » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:26 pm

Jenise wrote:
ChefJCarey wrote:No hormones, blah, blah blah.

Cooking it tonight. Been brining it for a week.

Btw, has anyone here tried Harris Ranch beef?

Had a couple of ribeyes from there that blew me away.


Harris Ranch beef can be incredible. When I worked on a project up in Bakersfield, we'd occasionally send someone up I-5 to bring back a truckload and we'd grill 'em right after work in the parking lot.

Surprised to hear about you getting it in Oregon, though--up here, all the good prime beef comes from Oregon.

So, what does Chef serve with his corned beef?


Very traditional. Well, actually I'm using some very untraditional potatoes - Russian Bananas - but otherwise SOP. Carrots, cabbage ( a vegetable I absolutely love) and horseradish Dijon.
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Re: Corned Beef Brisket

by John Tomasso » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:05 am

I'm smack dab in the middle of Harris Ranch country - in fact, there's one local market here that features it exclusively. The butcher there also has a dry aging program.
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Re: Corned Beef Brisket

by Jenise » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:32 pm

ChefJCarey wrote:Very traditional. Well, actually I'm using some very untraditional potatoes - Russian Bananas - but otherwise SOP. Carrots, cabbage ( a vegetable I absolutely love) and horseradish Dijon.


I bow to some traditions but not all. Grew up with everything cooked in the same pot, and nothing but water to cover. I like the color and piquance achieved by adding sweet Hungarian paprika to the boiling water, and the complexity and aromatics of a handful of chopped mint. Also, I'll roast the potatoes separately and for color, serve a pile of grilled green onions. One year someone dared me to make an Italian version of corned beef and cabbage, so I made corned beef ravioli and teamed them with pillows of steamed cabbage cut into squares roughly the same size as the ravioli. On the plate the ravioli and cabbage pieces were combined, doused with a creamy mustard sauce made from a reduction of the broth, then drizzled the lot with a mustard green pesto. Probably one of the most bizarrely wonderful dishes I've ever come up with.
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Re: Corned Beef Brisket

by Bob Henrick » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:38 pm

ChefJCarey wrote:No, that's why this stuff was so amazing to me. It was excellent. I am a convert.


Chef, I should have researched the Harris Ranch beef before replying the first time. I see now that their beef is not so called range or grass fed beef. It is rather beef that has been fed out on a feed lot using a feed including corn that they make themselves. Their beef (and I admire this) is hormone and antibiotic free. And according to their web page the cattle are humanely treated from early life to the slaughter house. That is not always true, and we just recently saw where the packing company was using a fork lift to forcibly move downed cattle. Quite a revolting video, and IMO that company should be 100% shut down with no possibility of ever being in the business again EVER. I will have to look at their prices, but I suspect that with shipping added I can't afford them. Maybe there is a source of like beef closer to me.
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Re: Corned Beef Brisket

by ChefJCarey » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:04 pm

I bow to some traditions but not all. Grew up with everything cooked in the same pot, and nothing but water to cover.


I don't bow to any tradition just because it's a tradition. But, in this instance I do incline my head slightly.

Having grown up an Irish-American Catholic boy (well, I was) in a Jewish home, I pay homage to this fine Irish-American/Jewish fusion dish from the Lower East Side by leaving it alone.

No tampering. I'll probably do it one more time this month, what with the two holy days coming up. St. Patrick's Day, of course, on the 17th and then, more importantly, two days later, St Joseph's Day.

(She's a slum goddess from the Lower East Side.)
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